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A plea to the Lodestone community.
If you have been paying attention to the real world, you know what is about to come up in a week in the USA. Because of this, I am writing this to plead with the Lodestone community to not let any of that craziness creep in here.
Look, I know you all have thoughts on the various subjects, parties, views, issues, policies, etc, you both back and probably disagree with. There are things you may fervidly believe in and will shout to the moon and back to support and maybe try to convince others to support too.
Whatever it may be, I am asking, no pleading with you to please, please, PLEASE keep it OUT of the FF14 Lodestone. It has NO place here in our little gaming blog community, just causes trouble, and is most unwelcome.
The few old timers that are still left remember what happened back in 2016 because someone did just that, and the chaos it caused. The Lodestone was forever ruined by it and went from a vibrant community of people posting, chatting, and discussing various insightful things to the pale dead lifeless shadow it is now. Many people either got banned or just gave up and left, never to return.
Now I know people post about real life stuff sometimes, hell, I do it. But it's different talking about events in ones life and pushing an agenda or views about certain stuff where one shouldn't push. There are plenty of other places for that if you so desire to do so. Let the only views and bitching here be how best to serve Lalafell Poptatos, who is better: cat girls or bunny girls, why do tanks keep pulling EVERYTHING when the healer is NOT ready, when the hell are they going to fix Viera hats, and WHEN is Scholar going back to the way it USED to be! ;-)
Personally, I can tolerate a discussion on such issues and people should be open to the views of others...however if the context of said discussion is going to be inherently political on the lodestone then it should be relevant material to the experience of FFXIV. For example, if someone wanted to compare literary symbols to the real world; would this be alright?
I prefer to see more ff14 food posts. Bacon anything is always good. Desserts.. yum.. The others are meh.
I agree though. Some people (one person on lodestone.. maybe two) need to keep their stupid, cryptic, toxic bs to themselves.
I did not think to post this message but maybe I will as well. Thank you for doing so Anna.
The things that happened in 2016 right after President Trump was announced as president, should have been placed up on a pedestal as an example to the horrible things people can do out of pure hatred for someone’s opinions.
We are better then that, we should have been, and we most importantly were not.
I hope that if anyone should see any post about it, they ignore.
Many people were banned from the lodestone, leaving it a husk for the past four years of what it once was. Many people were even suspended and/or banned on there xiv accounts over it. The lodestone has a direct link to your xiv account.
This is not a joke, please do not post your political frustrations nor victory’s. Keep it to yourselves, do us all a favor yus yus.
Perhaps the worst part is the fear it spread. People stopped posting or commenting or even logging into the lodestone out of fear.
Suddenly this was not a good place for everyone to be. It was filled with hate, to the point where people were being banned and warned for posts far before election.
I hope to never see a repeat. We lost a lot of really diverse and good people within a weeks time
Thank you Esper for posting that.
I know there are many new people here now that don't know the history of the Lodestone, how it was before and what happened to ruin it. It's tried to bounce back, but after 4 years and people kind of scared and tired of the game, it will probably never be good again and left to the realm of being an FF14 instagram.
But Aala, food posts just make one hungry and want to break their diets. ;p
Cliff, in an ideal world people can have civil discussions about those topics and respect one another's opinions and differences on the subjects.
But sadly, many people degenerate into; what I think is right, everyone else is wrong, and how DARE you disagree with me!
Even with stuff like you were suggesting, people try it in the forums....yeah, it is not pretty. Look at the whole; should characters be allowed to smoke in the game, brought the haters of smokers right out of the woodwork.
Well Smoking is bad for yea, and is represented by a select few NPC's so yea. But so is hitting someone with a Giant Axe. So yea. Moral compass be dammed.
As to political discussions, we are on here to talk about this game. Maybe Lore, maybe political struggles between the rich and poor. But certainly not political beliefs irl...that's for log out time. NOW if it pertained to Banning MMO's, it's on like Donkey Kong. But hey, we don't pay each other's sub so I guess it's up to the individual.
So I wasn't here for the 2016 lodestone meltdown(I wasn't subbed), I guess it was needed if that many people got banned. I think we're fine here.
It's the forums that I'm worried about /s.
Hah Minerva the Forums are like a cockroach, it will never truly die let alone cease to exist.
I only get in political discussions with those really REALLY close to me. 2 randoms online? Always big fight of the decade. Ive had players try to drag me into Trump discussions, heck Ive seen people roll all 420(320?) million people into one basket, it's stupid.
Thankfully, I guess, politics has yet been the thing I've seen destroy FCs. That's always gonna be love triangles/quadrangles/power struggles/applesauce(long story)=P.
Don't get me wrong, I do not want to see political trash talk dragged into here anymore than y'all.
However, my social sciences ass would be remiss not to point out that nothing is apolitical. I'm with Cliff - this is the Lodestone and stuff on here should be FFXIV-related, but there are aspects of real-world politics that affect the game community and I think it's ok to talk about those. If we can do that without tearing each other's heads off.
So probably not for a couple months at least.
A few points I would like to address: firstly, if you haven't noticed...there is not one single advertisement on this website that is not FFXIV related, the site even warns you when you are leaving through a link to a different page. I can appreciate this, more people should use this site that play the game.
Secondly, the world is testing you and your character will be made from choices of what to do and say both in game and irl, so choose wisely what to believe and how to act.
My statement falls into a sort of ultimatum, even so though, the idea is based on behavioral science and enlightenment philosophy.
I agree with all of that however political influence is a nasty beast and spreads like wildfire.
i may post work i do, i like to make rpgs, and that's primarily it, but i think you guys are right for not wanting malcontents in the sacred halls of the perpetually (probably, I am just guessing) clean lodestone.