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Bird Farm: Calculated Probabilities

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Hello,

Resting after a long farm session at Bismarck Ex, but thought I'd provide some insight into the obtainment rates of these nice, glowy pidgeons for all those unlucky farmers out there who have yet to get their drop.

Now, before I continue, I will make note that these calculations are made based on fellow player feedback stating that the estimated drop rate is about 5% (1 drop in every 20 runs). Personally, after farming over the last 2 and a half weeks, I'd say I really do see, on average, 1 whistle in every 20 or so runs, so that % chance is about right. (Not surprised if the actual rate is off by a percent or 2, of course.)

Here are your chances:
Note: This assumes you are farming without a static, as in no one passes the bird for you.
●------------------------------------------------------------------●
| # of Runs | % Chance to obtain from drop |
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| . . . . 1 . . . .| . . . . . . . . . 0.625 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . . 5 . . . .| . . . . . . . . . 3.086 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . . 10 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 6.077 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . . 25 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 14.51 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . . 50 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 26.91 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . . 75 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 37.51 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 100 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 46.58 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 150 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 60.95 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 200 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 71.46 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 250 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 79.14 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 300 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 84.75 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 400 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 91.86 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 500 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 95.65 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 750 . . .| . . . . . . . . . 99.09 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
| . . . 1000 . .| . . . . . . . . . 99.81 . . . . . . . . . . . . |

*Values obtained via MATLAB, calculations done based on the binomial distribution.

My advice, dear fellow farmers, count your totems to ease the disappointment for those runs where your bird doesn't drop or you lost your roll! And try to make friends with your fellow farmers, the occasional joke/conversation between ques really help the mood.

Good Luck!
-Luxie ♡

P.S. For those lucky people who already got your drops, grats, but try to help out your less fortunate friends who really, really want one. ;)

P.S.S. If someone reading this is crazy enough to do 1000 runs without a static (of at least 6 farmers/friends), before hating me for getting your hopes up, please understand that you will be doing 1000 runs at a 0.625% chance of obtainment per run. What this means is you MIGHT still NOT get your precious bird after 1000 runs, as unlikely as that 0.19% chance of this happening seems! Now remember not to hate me. xD

P.S.S.S. Dear Square Enix, for the love of USD, JPY, EUR, and every other monetary currency in the world too, because I know this is what you want most as a corporation, please let dedicated farmers buy the mount at a cost of 200 to 500 Expanse Totems! What more must some of us do to earn the mount???
Comments (17)

Jakuta Dhousnos

Cactuar [Aether]

Well atleat I'm in the 50 range Thanks for this!

Luxea Dawnlight

Ragnarok [Chaos]

Uh...The chart is to be interpretted as "if I do X runs, I have Y% chance to get 1 bird." so if you have done 100 runs of Bismarck/Ravana/Sephirot/Thordan, then X=100, Y=46.58...in other words, another 100 runs wil, have about 47% chance of you getting a birdy. Good Luck!

Luxea Dawnlight

Ragnarok [Chaos]

....if you will do 100 run* Sprry typo in the above ^^

Jakuta Dhousnos

Cactuar [Aether]

Yeah I have bissy and doing Ravana with a totally of 120 Runs so this will help me to determine my luck

Luxea Dawnlight

Ragnarok [Chaos]

Its really intended for people who wanna know if its worth their time to start or continue farming. The drop rates will eventually increase after a few months

Jakuta Dhousnos

Cactuar [Aether]

Yeah

Fenris Somnium

Siren [Aether]

*waits for SE to increase drop rate after patch*

Aerialavenger Fenrir

Goblin [Crystal]

I spent the entire day fighting Bis Ex, and I saw about 8 birds drop total. I Done about 60ish runs that day! I will get it one of these days!!!@#@!

Luxea Dawnlight

Ragnarok [Chaos]

You have very good luck seeing it drop, shame about your rolls...

Noxelka Caine

Ragnarok [Chaos]

Im trying to help, I promise!

Luxea Dawnlight

Ragnarok [Chaos]

Rosea dear, for my birthday, please clone yourself 6 times and farm with me to significantly increase my chances of getting the birdy :D

Noxelka Caine

Ragnarok [Chaos]

If I could clone myself 6 times I'd be doing more than just bird farm honey!

Luxea Dawnlight

Ragnarok [Chaos]

Ofc you can clone yourself 6 times, heres how:
1) win lottery
2) repeat step 1 x100 times
3) fund engineering research to build a space colony, build AI, robotics
4) build an army of (giant) robots to serve you
5) move to said colony & declare your colony a new nation to the UN
6) now you have 2 choices:
a-have the AI make 6 new characters and play and lvl them to 60
b-have the AI research cloning you and do it 6 times,
7) make the AI or your biological clones farm with us.

Luxea Dawnlight

Ragnarok [Chaos]

Please be aware SE may ban you account if you attempt to take a shortcut and your neighbors film you "botting" 6 chars to 60. :p

Noxelka Caine

Ragnarok [Chaos]

6 clones of my irl self to play 1 char each, plus you and we have our own static :D

Alucard Belmont'

Coeurl [Crystal]

1400+ runs confirmed no bird =/

Cabri Cor

Raiden [Light]

what a trollpost
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