I wished to discuss the Current New
Deep Dungeon Eureka Orthos (EO)
My experience as solo running has been equally disastrous as it has been in a party finder. However, a party run proves more difficult in many aspects. The fact that it is required to have a tank that knows what they are doing or they could mess everyone up as it was the theme in previous deep dungeons no longer is truly the case. It takes one accidental AOE or movement to hate on a certain dangerous enemy that could cost an entire group—not to mention how it also depends on how much people understand what to do during a monster trap activation and how to work together as a team. This is the true theme of Eureka Orthos and while I do enjoy that new challenge, it proves over and over almost impossible to clear in a party. I’ve so far only managed once. ONCE.
I had one party who had two French players—never communicated. They kept burning fortunes willy-nilly, then on floor 40 they used a RAISING…….
Yeah at that point I left. My biggest pet peeve are those who want to just go and not listen. Even when you are inexperienced. The key is communication. The rest of my experience, horrific as it sounds, has to do with these “Reclear” trap party finders. There are at least one or two who haven’t cleared nor seen past floor 30. After this happened thrice in a row I no longer continue in a PT that keeps dying to simple gimmicks before hitting 41+. I sound toxic, but hear me out: Personally during my first PT clear, we had 2 who hadn’t cleared it yet but amazingly they had prior deep dungeon experiences and knew exactly what to do if someone would step on a monster trap or get in trouble, or things getting out of hand. We had an experienced tank—and so this group formed very clean and well in order to clear. When there is one person who hasn’t much or at all experience in a group, that is fine, but I am astounded to find them in REclear groups. I found out also, the reason for this is because the deep dungeon doesn’t enforce the “Duty completed” tag, which I am fully against.
As for Solo? I find it outrageous how 21-30 has one shot mechanics. Now, as somebody who loves doing deep dungeons every day, I am not saying it needs to get nerfed. But the fact that 100% focus and concentration is required from 1-100 is a bit too much for people who suffer intense mental health issues–as well as ADD/ADHD yet love to challenge the solo aspect. I’ve gotten too used to POTD being relaxing and braindead from 1-100. I am used to HOH being brain dead and relaxing from 1-50. I am NOT used to having NO rest moments and being able to listen to a podcast while relaxing my climb at all. This is my biggest complaint about soloing………. People may disagree, but I am not asking beyond 31+. I just want to be able to feel okay if I miss an AOE so low on my climb. This complaint would NOT have existed if 1-30 didn’t take 3 hours for me. You can disagree and say “Well speed kill the floorsets” or “Speed run”... But that’d have me wipe every floor 1-10 because I cannot focus too much at the same time. One thing at a time only–which is why EO is extra challenging to me. If you don’t struggle–good on you. I envy you. But not everyone is born with a healthy brain. I like the difficulties and challenges from 41+ because it is perfectly designed. I would never, ever ask a nerf beyond. That’d be too dull. I had to go through 1-30 for five times in a row on average. My bad for being braindead, but it’s too unforgiving. The latest death is truly the only death that REALLY tilted me. You know the spawn room where there are round stairs and fences around you with an unnecessary thick amount of invisible wall? I got trapped right there–Could not even move or get out of an AOE, and didn’t see I went into that room specifically upon kiting. These things don’t make a deep dungeon difficult, but infuriating. Sigh.......
Moving on, from hereon I use a macro and make my own party finders. I really want to clear more than that one time only. So I wished to share the macro in case anyone feels it is a good way to prepare people for the best stable prep method to begin the journey to the end of Allagan's baseless end's journey....
Today I will give it a shot and see how it goes.... While the words sounds strict, I would never want it to be toxic/overly strict and tense. It's just safety rules so people are on the same page and try to do what is written. Even myself am human, and make mistakes. MANY mistakes, even...
/p ※PROTOMANDERS：
/p L＿Don't touch Protos→unless told to use one.
/p L＿Announce capped protos→don't use at random.
/p L＿Requesting to use a proto is allowed→negotiation of strategies welcomed. Communication is key.
/p L＿Never use Onion Knights for floorsets. Order: Unei→Doga. Boss 60 or 70+：Onion Knight(Depends on pickup)
/p ※PANIC MOMENTS：
/p L＿Hug★The★Wall！(I know some walls have traps)
/p L＿B61+ Stepping Monster trap→Die. Nobody heal/attack. Don't panic→ Run into a hallway to die.AWAY from party!!!（Keep the rest of PT safe!!!）
/p L＿Announce on DISCORD or CHAT you stepped on MONSTER trap!! Don't assume people know what you are doing.
/p L＿In case of dangerous enemies：All other member LOS nearest wall just in case. Worst case scenario: Storms.
/p L＿71+Sasquatch=priority→No more splitting up from 61+ onwards
/p ※DEATHS：
/p L＿If rezzers die, only use phoenix from 71＋otherwise FULL KILL. Reraise=71+ once only, or if spare. 81+/91+ once as well. Phoenix required in bags.
/p L＿Stay calm, don't panic. Communicate on Discord and/or chat writing→ Listen careful to call-outs and to each other. I am not the Leader, I am equal rank as everyone else!
/macroicon マメット・オニオン minion
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Sounds like u need a break from this game. Not good feeling frustrated. Usually the more frustrated you are the more u can’t clear. I just started duo today, me and my partner got wiped 1-10. Definitely feels different than HoH and PotD. I went there first time with 4 people everyone die except me. I suggest to take things slow when it gets frustrating. No one reward you for clearing it so just take it easy. Is a game after all. Suppose to be fun.
